This guy

"area man" (hurrburgring) 01/06/2016 at 16:24 • Filed to: None

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is SO fucking lucky. What do you think happened here?

Wacko > area man 01/06/2016 at 16:28

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rear tire was 1.5 psi too low.

MPA > area man 01/06/2016 at 16:28

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Gotta watch the video again with sound before I comment :)

but it’s a good reminder that you shouldn’t rail all out on roads you don’t know. Always leave a safe margin of error :)

edit: just watched it. not sure. It’s wierd to crash towards the inside of a turn, off-throttle oversteer and application of brakes?

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > area man 01/06/2016 at 16:31

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The short answer is “too much speed, and the wrong driver response”, but I’m also tempted to say “Hey kids, this is why stance is bad.”
That Forester doesn’t look particularly slammed... but even a poorly done mild lowering or badly adjusted coil-overs could account for it easily.

HammerheadFistpunch > area man 01/06/2016 at 16:32

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This was on the FP yesterday. I can tell you EXACTLY what happened:

too fast

Lift off oversteer

Hand of God.

gin-san - shitpost specialist > area man 01/06/2016 at 16:33

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Can’t access video at work, but I believe this is the guy that went off a cliff but got VERY lucky (“...oh no, oh NO!”).

I thought I had just watched someone die but luckily that wasn’t the case.

I think he just exited the tunnel carrying way too much speed into the turn (the camera adjusting to the light change makes the appearance of that corner seem very sudden) and it must’ve been liftoff oversteer or trying to brake and taking weight off the back end. It’s strange because normally I’d expect a “fishtail” or “tank-slapper” type movement in trying to correct it but instead it just turns steadily to the left.

After checking out the video again (on mobile) I think he may have just turned too hard, too late, because it seems like he was about to veer off the right side of the road, turned in too hard, with some combination of liftoff oversteer, and it was just too much going on which upset the car balance.

Source: many hours of Forza 4.

area man > HammerheadFistpunch 01/06/2016 at 16:34

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Ah poop, I hate re-sharing things like that.

Cash Rewards > area man 01/06/2016 at 16:35

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I wanted to say throttle-off induced oversteer, but it sounds like he was off the throttle well before the spin? Maybe the pavement transition, but it didn’t really seem like he was at the ragged edge of traction. It’s odd. Best guess is combo of the two, along with cold temps and summer tires.

area man > gin-san - shitpost specialist 01/06/2016 at 16:35

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Yeah exactly, no fishtail had me kind of confused.

HammerheadFistpunch > area man 01/06/2016 at 16:36

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nah, its all good. Crazy stuff needs extra love.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > area man 01/06/2016 at 16:37

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Did his rear right tire hit the dirt while coming out of the tunnel? I think I have driven that same stretch of road before also. I definitely always take it easy upon coming out of a tunnel like that, just because a pedestrian could try to cross or something. Really unfortunate shit right there! Wonder if the cold plus summer tires had anything to do with it also.

wiffleballtony > gin-san - shitpost specialist 01/06/2016 at 16:37

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Lift off oversteer makes the most sense.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > MPA 01/06/2016 at 16:38

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I think it’s a combo of off-throttle oversteer (possibly worsened by changes in suspension geometry from the lowering) coupled with a failure to contersteer quickly enough. (which all could have been avoided by reducing speed a bit)

wiffleballtony > area man 01/06/2016 at 16:39

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What I find odd is that it didn’t look particularly fast and the corner didn’t look particularly difficult. However, I’m going to go with lift off oversteer like the rest.

Rico > area man 01/06/2016 at 16:40

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Yikes! Don't these things have AWD? I feel like he could've corrected himself if he powered through.

area man > MPA 01/06/2016 at 16:42

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Yeah I think he braked as well

area man > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 01/06/2016 at 16:43

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The Forester’s AWD system is pretty good, I think with what everyone else is saying it’s probably lift off oversteer coupled with driver error/slow reactions.

area man > Rico 01/06/2016 at 16:43

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They do, and it’s a pretty good system. I think he braked.

Mustafaluigi > area man 01/06/2016 at 16:58

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I’m guessing the raised transition in the road as he came out of the tunnel upset the car as it bounced right as he started turning. He was already off the throttle and may have been on the brakes a bit but the bump is very noticeable in the road and as the car bounces when he drives over it.

TheRealBicycleBuck > area man 01/06/2016 at 17:06

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In his description on YouTube, he said he wasn’t familiar with the road. He romped on the gas to hear the engine in the tunnel, not realizing there was a sharp turn at the end. He also said he was distracted by a guy waving at him in an attempt to warn him to slow down. By the time he realized how sharp the turn ahead was, it was too late and he lost control.

VC240 > area man 01/06/2016 at 17:24

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Yo, I replied to the main story on the Jalop FP, but I’ll address some questions I’ve seen in the comments.

NOTE: I am not the driver. He’s my close friend. His name is Jimmy. Just wanna get that out of the way.

He was distracted, with a little too much speed coming out of the tunnel. He turned, rotated, THEN decided to clutch, brake hard, and counter-steer. He was slow and late to react. The result of his major lapse in judgement is shown in the video.

He hit me up after he was released from the hospital with a few brusies and a cut on his arm. That’s it, he walked way from it fine. I gave him hell for what he did. I don’t condone his actions what-so-ever, and I let him know.

Car is totaled. He got another Forester a few months later.

He learned from this, big time. What he wrote in his video description and FB post is true. Major wake-up call for him to not do something stupid like this again. I’ve rode with him in his new car whenever we hung out this year, he’s definetly calmed down and wised up.

I’m happy he’s alive, and proud that he posted up the video to share his experience on how not to drive on unfamiliar roads.

That pretty much sums up what happened. I have a little more detail on my post on the FP, if you wanna dig for my comment. Otherwise, that’s the gist of it.

Berang > area man 01/06/2016 at 17:26

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In his own words he basically says he wasn’t paying attention, and didn’t expect the road to curve when he got out of the tunnel.

area man > VC240 01/06/2016 at 17:27

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Thanks for the reply! Very interesting/informative.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 01/06/2016 at 17:41

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Upon further review, the video of the skid marks shows the vehicle was clearly on three wheels for most of the skid. Although a FieSTa or a GTI may love to tripod, this is NOT appropriate handing for a Subaru and indicates poor suspension setup.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > area man 01/06/2016 at 17:44

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video of the tire marks shows the car was on three wheels for most of the skid, this may work for a FieSTa or a GTI, but it is NOT appropriate for a Subaru and suggests poor suspension setup was a contributing factor.

VC240 > area man 01/06/2016 at 17:45

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Yeah, no problem, man! I just wanted to state some facts, since I keep seeing inquisitive comments about what happened.

Chasaboo > area man 01/06/2016 at 19:31

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I’m going with, lack of intelligence. It goes a long way in creating bad accidents.

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > area man 01/07/2016 at 03:19

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Not knowing their car and how it handles. And cheap/ not set up correctly suspensionn